"Malay Lexicalized Items in Penang Peranakan Hokkien"

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amhoanna
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"Malay Lexicalized Items in Penang Peranakan Hokkien"

Postby amhoanna » Fri Sep 05, 2014 10:27 am

Interesting paper. The list at the end is like a hit list. Maybe these are the kind of words that "north of the border" Malays would know.

http://sealang.net/sala/archives/pdf8/soon1998malay.pdf

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Re: "Malay Lexicalized Items in Penang Peranakan Hokkien"

Postby Ah-bin » Fri Sep 05, 2014 5:50 pm

Thanks for raising awareness of this article Amhoanna. I have found it very useful for many indications of words that people use and know, although I find it a pity that the phonetic realisations of the Malay loans are not noted, as there seems to be no rule on what tones a Malay word will take on when borrowed into Hokkien.

The author's suggestion that "lah" and "nia" are from Malay lowered my opinion of the scholarship somewhat, but it really is a very good reference list. The old Penang Hokkien Podcast forum had a very good list as well, but I have it only in hard copy, covered in notes.

amhoanna
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Re: "Malay Lexicalized Items in Penang Peranakan Hokkien"

Postby amhoanna » Fri Sep 05, 2014 9:56 pm

Yeah, overall "quality of scholarship" is kind of disappointing for a modern paper. I kind of take exception to the authors treating Kedah Malay as if it was "not really Malay". But yeah, still useful for some things.


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