Taiwanese dialects

Discussions on the Hokkien (Minnan) language.
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Taiwanese dialects

Post by Andrew » Thu Aug 14, 2008 9:08 am

I'm thinking at some point of going to Taiwan to study Mandarin, and wondered if there was a part of Taiwan where I could also learn/practise Hokkien without it being too different from the Penang dialect. I know most of Taiwan speaks a mixed but mainly Amoy dialect, but are there parts that speak Ciangciu style?
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Post by ong » Thu Aug 14, 2008 10:47 am

There only place in this world who speak ciangciu dialects is just China.I have listened to those hai chng dialects and they also speak first tone slightly bend upward.It is impossible for anyone outside china to learn that.
Too many words in Penang hokkien are just amoy and cuanciu .Even tin te is just Amoy,can you believe that?
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Post by ong » Sat Aug 16, 2008 6:39 am

拍抢 is another amoy word used by everyone in malaysia.Even we change it to ciaunn ,it is still not cuanciu or ciangciu.
The host of penanghokkien like to use 青疑 tshinn gi is also amoy(cuanciu sandhi is not used at all in malaysia for first tone) .I wonder why the hell amoy words are so popular .
Andrew

Post by Andrew » Thu Aug 28, 2008 7:02 pm

I heard that Ilan is pretty much the only place in Taiwan where they use mui~, tui~, etc. Seems like most of Taiwan uses a mixed Amoy version.
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Post by ong » Fri Aug 29, 2008 7:49 am

In ciangciu some areas also use ng instead of uinn.
We can easily hear even in TV people using tu and tir but not only ti.
Taiwanese do retain sandhi of 53 to 24 in cuanciu style.There are even 6th tone 31 use by area near kaoxiong.
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