Where are the Teochews?

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amhoanna
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Re: Where are the Teochews?

Post by amhoanna » Sat Jul 09, 2011 4:21 pm

Interesting. I wonder if there are a lot of Chinese south of Rangoon?
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Re: Where are the Teochews?

Post by xiaojian » Tue Jul 12, 2011 10:53 pm

amhoanna wrote:Interesting. I wonder if there are a lot of Chinese south of Rangoon?
Yes, there are, especially in other provincial towns like Mawlamyaing (Moulmein), and along the thin coastal strip of land where Burma borders Thailand. But for the most part, Lower Burma is more Southern Chinese, while Upper Burma is more mixed (a fair share of Southern Chinese, but also Mandarin speakers). I know a few Muslim Chinese families from Mandalay, which seems to be a hotspot for Muslim Chinese and Yunnanese.
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Re: Where are the Teochews?

Post by amhoanna » Thu Jul 14, 2011 2:02 am

What's your impression of the Hokkien spoken in Mawlamyaing and south of there? If any?
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Re: Where are the Teochews?

Post by hokkien_learner » Fri Aug 05, 2011 11:16 pm

I was born in Cho Lon or 堤岸 and now immgrated to Australia. We Teochew are the second largest Chinese group in Vietnam and most of us can speak Cantonese , and Teochew as our native language so dont misunderstand that we speak Cantonese doesn't mean we are Cantonese. 8)
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Re: Where are the Teochews?

Post by amhoanna » Sat Aug 06, 2011 5:26 pm

so dont misunderstand that we speak Cantonese doesn't mean we are Cantonese. 8)
Of course. Happens all the time. 8)

It's cool that U're learning Hokkien. If U speak good Teochew, U could be fluent in Hokkien in a matter of weeks.

Sometimes it still amazes me how much Cantonese is spoken all around Saigon - and I haven't even spent time in or around Cholon. It's just a person here, a person there, but they're everywhere. There's a thread on this in the Canto-forum.
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Re: Where are the Teochews?

Post by amhoanna » Sun Dec 25, 2011 2:16 pm

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Re: Where are the Teochews?

Post by TMCHionk » Sun Mar 04, 2012 12:54 pm

Pontianak City Demographics

The 2000 census put Pontianak's population at about 472,220,with an intercensal estimate in 2006 of 509,804. Pontianak is a multicultural city. It has a large population of Chinese alongside the native Malay and Dayak local ethnic groups, living alongside Javanese, Bugis, Batak, Minang, Madurese, Sundanese, Balinese, Ambonese and Papuan migrating from all over the country. In fact, Chinese form the largest single ethnic group in the city. Most Chinese are of either Teochew or Hakka extraction. These Chinese people trace their origins to the Chaoshan region in the Guangdong province of China. Native Indonesians are mainly Malay and Dayak people. Madurese and Javanese are also significant minorities.

Language

The Teochew dialect of Min Nan is the lingua franca used amongst the Chinese people in Pontianak. This dialect is closely related to the Teochew used in Singapore and Peninsular Malaysia. Most citizens of Pontianak use Malay accent of Indonesian, which is somewhat similar to that used in Malaysia.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pontianak,_Indonesia

Ketapang City Demographics

The 2004 census reported Ketapang regency's population of 473,880 consisting of 217,885 men and 205,931 women. Ketapang is a multicultural city. It has a large minority population of Chinese with the majority being native Indonesians. Madurese and Javanese are also significant minorities, in terms of size. Most Chinese residents in Ketapang are of either Teochew or Hakka descent with Teochew being the majority. Because of this, Teochew is the main dialect used among Chinese residents in Ketapang. The native Indonesians living there are mainly of Malay and Dayak descent. In regards to speech, most citizens of Ketapang incorporate a type of Malay accent in their Indonesian, which is somewhat similar to that used in Malaysia.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ketapang

The Chaoshan region where Chaozhou is spoken includes the cities of Chaozhou, Shantou, which are jointly the source of the name, as well as Jieyang, Chaoyang, Puning, Chao'an, Raoping, Huilai, Chenghai, Nanao, Lufeng, Haifeng, Shanwei and Huidong (惠东). Parts of the Hakka-speaking region, like Jiexi (揭西), Dabu (大埔) and Fengshun (豐順/丰顺) are also Chaozhou-speaking.

The administrative region now known as Chaoshan in China was one of the major sources of Chinese emigration to Southeast Asia during the 18th–20th centuries, forming one of the larger dialect groups among the Overseas Chinese. In particular, the Teochew people settled in significant numbers in Thailand, Cambodia, and Laos where they form the largest Chinese dialect group. They constitute a significant minority in Hong Kong, Taiwan, Vietnam, Malaysia, Singapore, and Indonesia (especially in Riau, North Sumatra, South Sumatra, and West Kalimantan, in Pontianak and Ketapang). Teochew speakers also live in Japan, South Korea, Australia, New Zealand, Canada, the United States of America, France, Germany, and England, a result of both direct emigration from Chaoshan to these nations and secondary emigration from Southeast Asia.

In Singapore, due to common culture, and influences from the media and government, Singaporean Chinese youths whose ancestral language is Teochew are either converting to English, Mandarin or Hokkien (with which it shares a certain degree of mutual intelligibility). Teochew remains the ancestral language of many Chinese people in Singapore - Teochew people are the second largest Chinese group in Singapore, after the Hokkien - although Mandarin is gradually supplanting Teochew as their mother tongue, especially among the younger generations. In Thailand, particularly in Bangkok, Teochew is still spoken among older ethnic Chinese Thai-citizen, however the younger generation ethnic Chinese Thai-citizen tends to learn Mandarin as a third language after Thai and English. Teochew was never popular in Japan and South Korea among the Chinese communities since most of the ethnic Chinese of Teochew ancestry who migrated to these countries are secondary immigrants from Hong Kong and Taiwan. Most of them are second generation people from Hong Kong and Taiwan who speak Cantonese and Mandarin as well as Korean and Japanese, leaving Teochew to be spoken mostly by elders.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Teochew_dialect

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