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by amhoanna
Thu May 08, 2014 5:36 am
Forum: Hokkien (Minnan) language
Topic: Penang Hokkien lessons
Replies: 47
Views: 161799

Re: Penang Hokkien lessons

Tamoe, Hoan-gêng, hoan-gêng. Lú sī Ìnnîⁿ tólo̍h ê lâng? Medan Hokkien and Penang Hokkien are very close indeed. U may want to look into Riau Hokkien. Also, it seems the penang hokkien has limited hokkien vocabulary. That's why there are many loanwords from english or malay language. If I want to bor...
by amhoanna
Tue May 06, 2014 9:54 pm
Forum: Hokkien (Minnan) language
Topic: 逐个好!我是新來的人嘍
Replies: 11
Views: 40562

Re: 逐个好!我是新來的人嘍

出業, 畢業 (w/ two pronunciations) and 卒業 are all used in TW. The first is probably a corruption of the third. All are common, but 卒業 is markedly less common. The Vietnamese also use 卒業. Yet another example of older Chinese etyma being preserved in both Hokkien and Vietnamese. However, I am not sure how...
by amhoanna
Mon Mar 31, 2014 5:07 am
Forum: Hokkien (Minnan) language
Topic: 逐个好!我是新來的人嘍
Replies: 11
Views: 40562

Re: 逐个好!我是新來的人嘍

Ta̍k'ê hoan-gêng hoan-gêng, ciāh pá--bē. Kolîm, khòaⁿ khoán lí Tionghôa-gú (MANDARIN) íkeng ōh kài kú, ahsī cūlâi tō ēhiáu--ê. Góa ê búgú sī Tionghôa-gú, Bânlâm-gú sī chiâu ciok kú ciah kā kùhoat chiâu hōo hósè--ê. Jú ōh ciah jú cai, goânlâi Bânlâm-gú kah Tionghôa-gú kùhoat cha-tōa-bé. 哥林、看款汝中華語已経斈吤...
by amhoanna
Mon Mar 31, 2014 4:32 am
Forum: Hokkien (Minnan) language
Topic: Malaysian Hokkien Occupation Words
Replies: 3
Views: 26394

Re: Malaysian Hokkien Occupation Words

I would not be surprised if many or most N M'sian speakers have that "sī" in there. If that's the case, I would chalk it up to the Cantonese influence.
by amhoanna
Mon Mar 31, 2014 4:30 am
Forum: Hokkien (Minnan) language
Topic: Malaysian Hokkien Occupation Words
Replies: 3
Views: 26394

Re: Malaysian Hokkien Occupation Words

Ilâng kàliáu thóhái--ê. 伊人 kà 了討海 ·个。 My guess for N M'sia. The Taiwanese version would be "In lóng thóhái--ê". "--ê" is also vested w/ some kind of copula function. I wouldn't say it's wrong to include a "sī", but it's often a sign of interference from Mandarin or English, used in speech by the "Ma...
by amhoanna
Wed Feb 19, 2014 10:19 am
Forum: Hokkien (Minnan) language
Topic: Pan-Minnanism
Replies: 17
Views: 70493

Re: Pan-Minnanism

Teochew in my posts?? Most likely just Nusantaranisms... According to a Delta source, 曼谷偏潮安腔,金塔偏揭陽腔,宅棍腔挺像現在汕頭混合腔,六省偏是澄海與潮陽混合體而發音已有所變化,朱洋(Vinh Chau) 較特殊,混合了很多福建話發音,又夾雜越棉諸語,連唐話辭彙也別具一格。 潮安 is "Tiociu baku", the traditional "best Teochew". 宅棍 is a native Hoklo name for Saigon. 六省 is a Chinese word for t...
by amhoanna
Mon Feb 17, 2014 6:01 am
Forum: Hokkien (Minnan) language
Topic: Pan-Minnanism
Replies: 17
Views: 70493

Re: Pan-Minnanism

Welcome back. I began learning Teochew recently, the Tiô'iôⁿ style. I've been going over the sound system of Teochew, Hokkien, and Haklau (海陸豐) to see what needs to be done to set up a system of kana (in the style of hiragana) for Hoklo. What do U mean when U refer to "this project"? Maybe the world...
by amhoanna
Mon Feb 17, 2014 5:48 am
Forum: Hokkien (Minnan) language
Topic: 新用戶自我紹介
Replies: 34
Views: 110910

Re: 新用戶自我紹介

This word is a thorn indeed in the side of people who want to write Hoklo in pure kanji. Scholars hired by the ROC government have picked 揣 as their weapon of choice for chhōe. Alongside 找, 尋, and 扌+ 罪, I would go with 尋 since that was the go-to written word for TO SEARCH in Classic 唐宋 Written Chine...
by amhoanna
Sat Jan 25, 2014 8:44 am
Forum: Hokkien (Minnan) language
Topic: Singular root of lán?
Replies: 17
Views: 71527

Re: Singular root of lán?

Niuc, goânlâi Bâgán pún ciong chù kóng cò "lāi", kah Tiôciu-ōe kāng. 8) I also benefited from Niuc's answer regarding the use of gún. I learned or thought I learned somewhere that "gún lāupē" is used whenever there's at least one sibling, but I guess it's used w/ or w/o siblings. My "interpretation"...
by amhoanna
Sat Jan 25, 2014 8:31 am
Forum: Hokkien (Minnan) language
Topic: Creolised Hokkien
Replies: 1
Views: 21506

Re: Creolised Hokkien

A good piece of scholarship. I tentatively believe Penang Hokkien went a few steps along yet another path of creolization, namely Siamization. This is not so obvious nowadays b/c there are so few Siamese speakers in Penang-Kedah-Taiping, and nationalization cut off much of the flow of people back an...
by amhoanna
Tue Jan 21, 2014 2:55 pm
Forum: Hokkien (Minnan) language
Topic: Penang Hokkien lessons
Replies: 47
Views: 161799

Re: Penang Hokkien lessons

My advice to a prospective learner of Penang Hokkien is to use the dictionary with caution. Ignore the spellings in the dictionary altogether, copy the words you want, and delete the spelling, save only the IPA and the tone, and compile your own dictionary with them. If you look them up by POJ (ass...
by amhoanna
Sun Jan 12, 2014 5:53 pm
Forum: Hokkien (Minnan) language
Topic: at the edge of/near
Replies: 2
Views: 22643

Re: at the edge of/near

Cit hāng téngbīn, góa sī bô "tē-it-gí-lâng" ê gíkám--lah. Góa kanta kámkak "kîⁿ" sī siōng óa cúi hia, ah "piⁿ" tō khah lēng, ētàng khah lī--leh, kah lí siá--ê kāngkhoán. Cit ê "kiⁿ" góa sī m̄ bat thiaⁿ. Âng Ûijîn só͘ siá--ê bē m̄ tio̍h--ê--lah (koanhē Bânlâm gí ê kùhoat kah jītiap).
by amhoanna
Sat Dec 21, 2013 4:15 pm
Forum: Hokkien (Minnan) language
Topic: Singular root of lán?
Replies: 17
Views: 71527

Re: Singular root of lán?

Kadri, I would be interested in knowing what U find. One other word that comes to mind is "người ta" (PEOPLE; OTHER PEOPLE). I have a different theory regarding ZǍNMEN. I've noticed it's really a Northern word, used consistently by people from certain parts of North China. Apolitical, uneducated peo...
by amhoanna
Wed Dec 18, 2013 9:45 am
Forum: Hokkien (Minnan) language
Topic: Singular root of lán?
Replies: 17
Views: 71527

Re: Singular root of lán?

Does that mean some of those languages do not distinguish between the concepts represented by lír and lán in Hokkien? Possibly, to some degree. The one Austronesian language I know is Riau-Johor-based Malay. The distinction is pretty clear in general. If not, do you have theories about how the same...
by amhoanna
Mon Dec 16, 2013 10:31 am
Forum: Hokkien (Minnan) language
Topic: Singular root of lán?
Replies: 17
Views: 71527

Re: Singular root of lán?

So please, enlighten me, how is lán as a substitute for goá or lí used? Is there a semantic implication in the use of lán instead of the "standard" pronoun? I should add I don't just mean the Hokkien words lán, lí and goá... I'm talking about the three concepts, throughout SE Asia. To start with a ...