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by xng
Thu Oct 22, 2015 12:00 pm
Forum: Hokkien (Minnan) language
Topic: Singular root of lán?
Replies: 17
Views: 82695

Re: Singular root of lán?

While reading Ang Ui-jins 臺灣禮俗語典, I stumbled on his explanation for the (Taiwanese) Hokkien plural personal pronouns: 北方的「們」實際就是「家」的意思。本作「門」,如「門風」即「家」風。客家話複數以「兜」(teu)表示,「兜」相當於閩雸語的tau,家也。但閩南語以「等」(tán)來表示。詳細的考證,參見拙著『談彎河佬語聲調研究』第五章「聲調研究在語源學尚的運用例」[I haven't read this one yet and also am not able to look...
by xng
Thu Oct 22, 2015 11:41 am
Forum: Hokkien (Minnan) language
Topic: Complement particles - kah, liáu, tio̍h, hōo...
Replies: 9
Views: 48114

Re: Complement particles - kah, liáu, tio̍h, hōo...

[*]Hit king tshù khí liáu tsin suí. (彼間厝起了真媠。) 'They built this building to be very beautiful.'[/list] ' 彼 is pronounced as 'Bii' and not 'Hii' The original word is 許 which is pronounced as 'Hii' in Amoy but 'Hɯ' in Quanzhou. 'Hit' is a combination of 'Hii' and 'it' 許一間厝起了真媠 Please use original wor...
by xng
Mon Oct 19, 2015 12:08 pm
Forum: Hokkien (Minnan) language
Topic: Minnan is a language group and not a single language
Replies: 6
Views: 36658

Re: Minnan is a language family and not a single language

but for Teochew and Hokkien? What are their standard dialects? That of Teochew probably that of Chaozhou proper because that has the most speakers? But of Hokkien? Xiamenese? Taiwanese? These are prestige dialects, yes, but like the number of speakers that's a sociological criterion. Whatever you c...
by xng
Tue Oct 13, 2015 12:26 am
Forum: Hokkien (Minnan) language
Topic: Minnan is a language group and not a single language
Replies: 6
Views: 36658

Re: Minnan is a language family and not a single language

I've pretty much given up on the issue of language vs. dialect because it has become more and more clear to me that the two are impossible to clearly define in scientific terms. Yes, you have some valid points in your arguments. There are problems with dialect continuum and loan words but these can...
by xng
Sun Oct 11, 2015 8:35 pm
Forum: Hokkien (Minnan) language
Topic: Minnan is a language group and not a single language
Replies: 6
Views: 36658

Re: Minnan is a language family and not a single language

Just to give a hypothetical hierarchical comparison to Indo-European language family 1.Sino-Tibetan / Indo-European 2.Sinitic / European 3.Min / Germanic languages 4.Minnan / West Germanic languages 4.Minbei / North Germanic languages 4.Mindong / East Germanic languages 3.PingYue / Romance languages...
by xng
Sun Oct 11, 2015 12:50 pm
Forum: Hokkien (Minnan) language
Topic: Minnan is a language group and not a single language
Replies: 6
Views: 36658

Minnan is a language group and not a single language

The common misconception is that Minnan is a single language is incorrect with Teochiu and Hokkien being dialects of this language incorrectly stated. To be dialects of a language, dialects should be more than 90% mutually intelligible eg. American English and UK English. Technically, Minnan should ...
by xng
Sun Oct 11, 2015 12:41 pm
Forum: Cantonese language forum
Topic: What is the most spoken language among 華人
Replies: 43
Views: 262437

Re: What is the most spoken language among 華人

Malaysia is unique in SEA because there are so many predominant Chinese languages in different regions.

Read

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malaysian ... by_regions
by xng
Fri Oct 09, 2015 9:06 am
Forum: Hokkien (Minnan) language
Topic: Malaysian dialect map
Replies: 2
Views: 29766

Re: Malaysian dialect map

It is explained in detail in the dominant languages by regions section

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malaysian ... by_regions
by xng
Sat May 26, 2012 11:19 am
Forum: Hokkien (Minnan) language
Topic: Appropriated hanji for che/chiah--e5/chia/chit/chiah-nih8
Replies: 35
Views: 63609

Re: Appropriated hanji for che/chiah--e5/chia/chit/chiah-nih

Chia and Hia are modern taiwanese invention based on the two original characters 之 (this) and 許 (that). 這遐 are all borrowed characters for their sound. 彼 is borrowed character for the meaning In south east asia, we use 之爿 - Ci Pin 許爿 - Hi Pin My maternal grandparents (grandfather from Hui-uaN, gran...
by xng
Sat May 26, 2012 11:14 am
Forum: Hokkien (Minnan) language
Topic: Hanji pronunciations in Taiwanese
Replies: 51
Views: 109650

Re: Hanji pronunciations in Taiwanese

siml Just because your family used 'Hong' doesn't mean it is correct. Just like many people use 'suka', 'pun' and thinks it is hokkien. :lol: eg.I can give a lot of wrong hokkien usage in Msia/Singapore but you should be smarter than me to find out yourself. Who is the 'frog' around here, the best w...
by xng
Fri May 25, 2012 6:22 pm
Forum: Hokkien (Minnan) language
Topic: Appropriated hanji for che/chiah--e5/chia/chit/chiah-nih8
Replies: 35
Views: 63609

Re: Appropriated hanji for che/chiah--e5/chia/chit/chiah-nih

Hi. I'm trying to learn Taiwanese, but I'm shrugging at what hanji would be appropriated for che (that), chiah--e5 (those), chia (here), chit (this) and chiah-nih8 (like that). I've been using 這, 遮個, 遮, 這 and 遮呢. My textbooks give some different solutions, but I'm afraid they're even more off. Coul...
by xng
Fri May 25, 2012 6:00 pm
Forum: Hokkien (Minnan) language
Topic: Hanji pronunciations in Taiwanese
Replies: 51
Views: 109650

Re: Hanji pronunciations in Taiwanese

"png1" and "hong1" for the surname 方 (in this case, my maternal Sin-Kheh family's surname). My guess is that the "initial-h" form is the colloquial reading and the "initial-p" form the literary] No. This is incorrect. The pronounciation follows the meaning, eg. 方 Surname - Png Recipe 秘方 - Hng Direc...
by xng
Fri May 25, 2012 4:36 pm
Forum: Hokkien (Minnan) language
Topic: Hanji pronunciations in Taiwanese
Replies: 51
Views: 109650

Re: Hanji pronunciations in Taiwanese

Thanks for this warm welcome, Mark :mrgreen: Assigning a 漢字 that etymologically has nothing to do with the word seems just wrong or awkward to me. But then I see solutions such as 𨑨迌, and while I don't have enough knowledge to judge it, I find them a little bit suspect. There are other characters p...
by xng
Fri May 25, 2012 4:31 pm
Forum: Hokkien (Minnan) language
Topic: Hanji pronunciations in Taiwanese
Replies: 51
Views: 109650

Re: Hanji pronunciations in Taiwanese

write 我們 in most formal contexts, but use 我哋 when the words are clearly meant to be recited colloquially ). But if it was a text meant to be “read by the eyes, not the e[/color] The original characters are 我等 and not 我哋, this is because 等 in common speech reads 'Tang'. 我等 has the correct meaning to...