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by ong
Thu Sep 11, 2008 12:23 am
Forum: Hokkien (Minnan) language
Topic: help with romanisation for Penang Hokkien
Replies: 9
Views: 9078

Forgive me for saying how the hell we can recommed people to learn this so called Penang Hokkien :x Do you suggest people to learn wrong pronunciation like John Ong in Penanghokkien? 关于 =guan he is totally wrong. 处男 =cho lam is yet another big mistake People in North Malaysia always end their senten...
by ong
Thu Sep 04, 2008 9:57 am
Forum: Hokkien (Minnan) language
Topic: Help with chinese characters w/ hokkien pronounciation pls
Replies: 4
Views: 6070

ciangciu is iong as well but there could be some villages say ing or eng.
For example rainbow is khing ,kheng,khen but a sect in ciangciu is khiong,etc.
by ong
Thu Sep 04, 2008 9:52 am
Forum: Hakka dialects
Topic: Book on the 惠州方言 Huizhou dialect
Replies: 9
Views: 32195

粤语惠河系探考 社科。It is a big book and you can ask xuelin to order for you.
by ong
Wed Sep 03, 2008 9:22 am
Forum: Hakka dialects
Topic: Book on the 惠州方言 Huizhou dialect
Replies: 9
Views: 32195

No,it is not possible.I even ask 惠州新华书店 and they said they never seen it.
I think to write a good dict on huizhou (not huizhou hakka)the author should be 刘叔新。Have you read his book?
by ong
Wed Sep 03, 2008 2:33 am
Forum: Hokkien (Minnan) language
Topic: Book on common vocabulary between Minnan and Old Chinese
Replies: 18
Views: 18056

眩 =in love with someone is also 永春 dialect not just amoy as mentioned by 周。
Yongchun dialect throw =monnh .So there is a radio DJ said 林丹 monnh his shoes into the crowd.
by ong
Mon Sep 01, 2008 3:18 pm
Forum: Hakka dialects
Topic: Book on the 惠州方言 Huizhou dialect
Replies: 9
Views: 32195

ong wrote:The thing is from above book that is indeed huizhou hakka and huzhou dialect.
That is the problem we face because people don't know where is their origin in that area.
by ong
Mon Sep 01, 2008 3:17 pm
Forum: Hakka dialects
Topic: Book on the 惠州方言 Huizhou dialect
Replies: 9
Views: 32195

The thing is from above bookthat is indeed huizhou hakka and huzhou dialect.
That is the pronlem we face because people don't know where is their origin in that area.
by ong
Mon Sep 01, 2008 10:21 am
Forum: Hakka dialects
Topic: Book on the 惠州方言 Huizhou dialect
Replies: 9
Views: 32195

I only have 粤语惠河系 which does't take it as hakka
by ong
Mon Sep 01, 2008 7:18 am
Forum: Hokkien (Minnan) language
Topic: hanzi and romanization for these
Replies: 20
Views: 29643

The thing is some benzi already found out by taiwanese but they still refuse to follow it.
Last year 惠州方言词典 was published but no one can find a copy of it.
by ong
Fri Aug 29, 2008 7:49 am
Forum: Hokkien (Minnan) language
Topic: Taiwanese dialects
Replies: 4
Views: 5733

In ciangciu some areas also use ng instead of uinn.
We can easily hear even in TV people using tu and tir but not only ti.
Taiwanese do retain sandhi of 53 to 24 in cuanciu style.There are even 6th tone 31 use by area near kaoxiong.
by ong
Thu Aug 28, 2008 1:18 pm
Forum: Hokkien (Minnan) language
Topic: Book on common vocabulary between Minnan and Old Chinese
Replies: 18
Views: 18056

The book with a lot of benzi for thit tho is by 许成章。台语本字 even gives 出惰 。花天酒地 =食lim puah thit.
I think she is right .She gives 任 for na =in which you can hear people using in Johor.I think she could be right as well.
I can't see any problem with 眩
by ong
Sat Aug 16, 2008 6:39 am
Forum: Hokkien (Minnan) language
Topic: Taiwanese dialects
Replies: 4
Views: 5733

拍抢 is another amoy word used by everyone in malaysia.Even we change it to ciaunn ,it is still not cuanciu or ciangciu.
The host of penanghokkien like to use 青疑 tshinn gi is also amoy(cuanciu sandhi is not used at all in malaysia for first tone) .I wonder why the hell amoy words are so popular .
by ong
Fri Aug 15, 2008 2:50 pm
Forum: Hokkien (Minnan) language
Topic: second person singular/plural pronouns
Replies: 2
Views: 4523

I think you must do your own research in 海 沧,东孚 ,角美,集美 .Maybe you can find it as soon as you arrive there.
It could be cuanciu lirn ,ciangciu lin and outskirts lun 500 years ago.
by ong
Thu Aug 14, 2008 10:47 am
Forum: Hokkien (Minnan) language
Topic: Taiwanese dialects
Replies: 4
Views: 5733

There only place in this world who speak ciangciu dialects is just China.I have listened to those hai chng dialects and they also speak first tone slightly bend upward.It is impossible for anyone outside china to learn that. Too many words in Penang hokkien are just amoy and cuanciu .Even tin te is ...
by ong
Tue Aug 12, 2008 11:09 am
Forum: Hokkien (Minnan) language
Topic: Help to identify Hokkien variant (endings -E vs -ue/-e)
Replies: 7
Views: 7945

You can find people from these fours sects in malaysia and Singapore. 李光前 (华侨银行) is from 梅山 side which use li and hi.
Don't ask me where is ancestor of 李宗伟 came from.He is a nanan as well

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